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by janKipo
Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:21 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: soweli suli li lape
Replies: 12
Views: 4770

Re: soweli suli li lape

Somewhere in either the vocab items on this site or in the notes about what Sonja is thinking, 'lukin' is used for "try" but I don't know what the final status will be. The stuff before 'la' is in a muddle. I would read 'tenpo mute pini' as "a long time ago" and 'tenpo mute' alon...
by janKipo
Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:59 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: soweli en kili
Replies: 9
Views: 3713

Re: soweli en kili

Aesthetics. 'kili li lon sewi palisa' "a poley high thing" or 'palisa sewi' " a high pole"? "soweli li tawa sewi wawa tan ni." 'tan ni la soweli ...' maybe even just 'li sewi wawa' (and maybe not). not aesthetics "taso ona LI ken ala kama jo e kili." back to a...
by janKipo
Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:58 pm
Forum: sitelen toki
Topic: A range of possibilities
Replies: 53
Views: 23591

Re: A range of possibilities

My point being that that ain't tp, or even a dialect of it, but another language altogether, which may share some history with tp but otherwise not. Tones are a nice device, though tend to cut back on the popularity of a conlang that uses them, and they need to be carefully chosen , not just for bad...
by janKipo
Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:08 pm
Forum: sitelen toki
Topic: A range of possibilities
Replies: 53
Views: 23591

Re: A range of possibilities

Well, no. There is no monosyllabic dialect of tp. Toki pona is not just the concept list or the grammar, it is the whole thing, complete with the built in jokes and the incongruities. We can work to smooth it out a bit, but it remains what it is. It is meant, after all, to be a spoken language (a la...
by janKipo
Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:08 pm
Forum: sitelen toki
Topic: A range of possibilities
Replies: 53
Views: 23591

Re: A range of possibilities

Yeah, the Japanese system is the first thing everyone thinks of and it fits pretty well. I seem to recall that the kanji for some tp words are complex but there are probably alternate and simplified versions. For the words without kanji, I wonder if that is really true, either in Chinese or especial...
by janKipo
Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:53 pm
Forum: sitelen toki
Topic: A range of possibilities
Replies: 53
Views: 23591

Re: A range of possibilities

Oh, yeah, I forgot to think about script v. print, which, as calligraphers in every language know, opens up another whole range of interesting appearances only loosely related to one another (even if you know the stroke order for Chinese characters, figuring out what is going on is not a trivial pur...
by janKipo
Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:47 pm
Forum: sitelen toki
Topic: A range of possibilities
Replies: 53
Views: 23591

A range of possibilities

tp offers a range of possibilities for other than alphabetic writing systems and other than oral face to face communications. To begin with the obvious. the restricted set of syllables, so nicely laid out in a grid, suggests a syllabary -- starting with Japanese (complete with the -n marker) and the...
by janKipo
Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:55 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: toma tawa sin
Replies: 6
Views: 2094

Re: toma tawa sin

pilin mi li pona lili. pilin pi jan ante li pona mute. pona.
by janKipo
Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:32 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: toma tawa sin
Replies: 6
Views: 2094

Re: toma tawa sin

Akidave writes: tenpo suno pini la kulupu mama mi li kama jo e tomo tawa ante. tomo tawa li sin ala. tenpo pini la jan wan li jo e tomo tawa ni. tomo tawa li jo e wawa pi sike tu tu. kon en sewi ike la ona li lawa pona. tomo tawa Jeep li nimi e tomo tawa. ona li pimeja. tenpo mute la mi awen lon lin...
by janKipo
Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:46 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: sin pi toki nanpa tan jan Sonja
Replies: 60
Views: 17613

Re: sin pi toki nanpa tan jan Sonja

A warning. There is more about the words in tp than you will find on the official site or even on the quasi-official ones. In fact, the use of 'nanpa' as a transitive verb is in at least one version of the official list, as is the ordinal usage. The use of both is in the corpus, though not with a lo...

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