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by janTepanNetaPelin
Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:30 pm
Forum: sin pi toki pona
Topic: nasin toki pi toki pona
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Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

jan pi toki pona o, mi sitelen e pini pi lipu mi: nimi ona li "nasin toki pi toki pona". (I wrote the end of my Toki Pona grammar.) toki open: hints for clarity toki namako: language add-ons toki ike: wrong Toki Pona toki apeja: deliberately wrong Toki Pona toki kipisi: incomplete Toki Pon...
by janTepanNetaPelin
Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:56 am
Forum: sin pi toki pona
Topic: nasin toki pi toki pona
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Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

janTepanNetaPelin wrote:nimi suli - verb
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nimi monsi - adjective/adverb
nimi insa - preposition


Update: I added transitive verbs ("nimi suli wawa") and changed the name of prepositions, i.e. from "nimi insa" to "nimi monsi wawa".

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by janTepanNetaPelin
Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:59 am
Forum: sin pi toki pona
Topic: nasin toki pi toki pona
Replies: 90
Views: 29056

Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

o jan pi toki pona, I rewrote my Toki Pona grammar written in Toki Pona (and Esperanto). Comments are welcome. The main goal was to create a set of terms in Toki Pona itself in order to describe the language: nimi kalama - onomatopoeia nimi ilo - particle nimi ijo - content word / root word nimi sul...
by janTepanNetaPelin
Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:48 pm
Forum: sin pi toki pona
Topic: nasin toki pi toki pona
Replies: 90
Views: 29056

Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

Here is an interesting link: http://linguistics.stackexchange.com/questions/3252/what-is-recursion A impossibility of changing the order of phrases are not a proof of recursion. "lukin e sitelen li pona tawa mi." is wrong because Toki Pona sentences have to have the order noun phrase, ver...
by janTepanNetaPelin
Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:18 pm
Forum: sin pi toki pona
Topic: nasin toki pi toki pona
Replies: 90
Views: 29056

Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

You are right "la" differs because of "A la B" = "If A then B". But is this condition a recursion? I thought about it again. I think Toki Pona has a recursion. In a la phrase could be a whole nested sentences (If A la B.). In contrast to the other separators you can't ...
by janTepanNetaPelin
Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:02 am
Forum: sin pi toki pona
Topic: nasin toki pi toki pona
Replies: 90
Views: 29056

Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

I think it is not a good idea to show false examples in a lesson. But changing the order of pi phrases is a good point for the lessons. OK. Understood. You can see the quotations if you read pu and the lessons of Pije (pi is used for complex compound nouns). The rest is logical. A big help for this...
by janTepanNetaPelin
Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:40 pm
Forum: sin pi toki pona
Topic: nasin toki pi toki pona
Replies: 90
Views: 29056

Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

Do you mean "kulupu pi kalama musi pi ma Inli li pona." = "the group of England music" is wrong? Both pi phrases belong to kulupu because recursions are illogical in Toki Pona. I mean the translation of this sentence is right. Maybe it is better to say in two sentences. Yes, I m...
by janTepanNetaPelin
Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:03 am
Forum: sin pi toki pona
Topic: nasin toki pi toki pona
Replies: 90
Views: 29056

Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

Do you mean "kulupu pi kalama musi pi ma Inli li pona." = "the group of England music" is wrong? Both pi phrases belong to kulupu because recursions are illogical in Toki Pona. I mean the translation of this sentence is right. Maybe it is better to say in two sentences. Yes, I m...
by janTepanNetaPelin
Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:58 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: Restrictive relative clauses
Replies: 7
Views: 1453

Re: Restrictive relative clauses

jan Sepo o, toki! It is not the aim of Toki Pona as the simple languages to support recursions. No recursion means: - no nested subordinate clauses - no nested li, e, la and pi phrases I ask Sonja to ensure this and she thinks similar. - *"jan pi li moku e soweli li kama moli." This sente...
by janTepanNetaPelin
Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:54 pm
Forum: sin pi toki pona
Topic: nasin toki pi toki pona
Replies: 90
Views: 29056

Re: nasin toki pi toki pona

I have some notes about recursions in my lessons already. One of them is in the chapter "Compound Nouns with pi". I hope my notes make clear that nested pi phrases are illogical. You could make it more clear if you say that "kulupu pi kalama musi pi ma Inli li pona." read as &qu...

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