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by janKipo
Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:32 am
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: sin pi toki nanpa tan jan Sonja
Replies: 60
Views: 41499

Re: sin pi toki nanpa tan jan Sonja

To sum up (I think): We will continue to call them 'nanpa suli' regardless of suspicions about the literal correctness of the expression (but most idioms -- indeed compound expressions -- are not literally correct, else they would be a lot longer). For the main remaining use of numerals, it would be...
by janKipo
Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:17 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: sin pi toki nanpa tan jan Sonja
Replies: 60
Views: 41499

Re: sin pi toki nanpa tan jan Sonja

It always a bad idea to take words like '"noun" too seriously when talking about tp. It's better to talk about roles or functions or doings. So a word nouns or performs a nominal function at the beginning of a sentence (ignoring 'taso' and 'la' with all before it and 'o' and probably some ...
by janKipo
Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:44 am
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: sin pi toki nanpa tan jan Sonja
Replies: 60
Views: 41499

Re: sin pi toki nanpa tan jan Sonja

jan Kipo, In your last post you claim that "nanpa" doesn't need "pi" to create a grouping, and then you go on and interpret the example as though it were not a group. It looks as though you're contradicting yourself. What exactly are you trying to say? Please show a few straight...
by janKipo
Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:46 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: sin pi toki nanpa tan jan Sonja
Replies: 60
Views: 41499

Re: sin pi toki nanpa tan jan Sonja

A warning. There is more about the words in tp than you will find on the official site or even on the quasi-official ones. In fact, the use of 'nanpa' as a transitive verb is in at least one version of the official list, as is the ordinal usage. The use of both is in the corpus, though not with a lo...
by janKipo
Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:32 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: toma tawa sin
Replies: 6
Views: 4494

Re: toma tawa sin

Akidave writes: tenpo suno pini la kulupu mama mi li kama jo e tomo tawa ante. tomo tawa li sin ala. tenpo pini la jan wan li jo e tomo tawa ni. tomo tawa li jo e wawa pi sike tu tu. kon en sewi ike la ona li lawa pona. tomo tawa Jeep li nimi e tomo tawa. ona li pimeja. tenpo mute la mi awen lon lin...
by janKipo
Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:55 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: toma tawa sin
Replies: 6
Views: 4494

Re: toma tawa sin

pilin mi li pona lili. pilin pi jan ante li pona mute. pona.
by janKipo
Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:47 pm
Forum: sitelen toki
Topic: A range of possibilities
Replies: 55
Views: 56802

A range of possibilities

tp offers a range of possibilities for other than alphabetic writing systems and other than oral face to face communications. To begin with the obvious. the restricted set of syllables, so nicely laid out in a grid, suggests a syllabary -- starting with Japanese (complete with the -n marker) and the...
by janKipo
Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:53 pm
Forum: sitelen toki
Topic: A range of possibilities
Replies: 55
Views: 56802

Re: A range of possibilities

Oh, yeah, I forgot to think about script v. print, which, as calligraphers in every language know, opens up another whole range of interesting appearances only loosely related to one another (even if you know the stroke order for Chinese characters, figuring out what is going on is not a trivial pur...
by janKipo
Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:08 pm
Forum: sitelen toki
Topic: A range of possibilities
Replies: 55
Views: 56802

Re: A range of possibilities

Yeah, the Japanese system is the first thing everyone thinks of and it fits pretty well. I seem to recall that the kanji for some tp words are complex but there are probably alternate and simplified versions. For the words without kanji, I wonder if that is really true, either in Chinese or especial...
by janKipo
Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:08 pm
Forum: sitelen toki
Topic: A range of possibilities
Replies: 55
Views: 56802

Re: A range of possibilities

Well, no. There is no monosyllabic dialect of tp. Toki pona is not just the concept list or the grammar, it is the whole thing, complete with the built in jokes and the incongruities. We can work to smooth it out a bit, but it remains what it is. It is meant, after all, to be a spoken language (a la...

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