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by janKipo
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:14 am
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: Implied Verb Prepositions
Replies: 5
Views: 35

Re: Implied Verb Prepositions

It’s not clear where Lope gets the rule that only verb, nouns and adjectives can make predicates. But, in any case, items like 'mi tawa tomo’ “I go home” are common in the corpus and never said to be improper. So, it seems that prepositions can also be predicates. Items like ‘mi tawa, tawa tomo’ are...
by janKipo
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:59 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: Implied Verb Prepositions
Replies: 5
Views: 35

Re: Implied Verb Prepositions

We had the “about” problem about (different one) a decade ago as part of the general problem that everything was being taken as direct object of ‘toki’: what was said, what it was about, who it was said to, and what language it was in. After considerable discussion back and forth, we were pretty muc...
by janKipo
Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:00 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: Seasons
Replies: 13
Views: 138

Re: Seasons

Pona mute!
by janKipo
Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:54 am
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: Seasons
Replies: 13
Views: 138

Re: Seasons

Given my bias, I would, of course, shift to 'waso pimeja/ la lon palisa moli' but getting both autumn and evening in the last five syllables is too much.
by janKipo
Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:46 am
Forum: musi
Topic: Three haiku by Taneda Santoka
Replies: 7
Views: 51

Re: Three haiku by Taneda Santoka

It's in the large corpus set
by janKipo
Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:08 pm
Forum: musi
Topic: Three haiku by Taneda Santoka
Replies: 7
Views: 51

Re: Three haiku by Taneda Santoka

True, but the tradition is pretty clearly in favor of a splash, though maybe not as much a one as “kersplash” suggests. I do like keeping the options open (my tp version uses ‘kalama telo’, of course). “plop”, which is about right, would be hard in tp.
by janKipo
Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:58 pm
Forum: musi
Topic: Three haiku by Taneda Santoka
Replies: 7
Views: 51

Re: Three haiku by Taneda Santoka

Kalama telco is the last line of the 17syllable version of the Basho frog pond poem , here the onomatopoetic "kersplash" (more a stone than a frog). I forget the Japanese. I'm not sure I understood your question. The fifty cases or so in the corpus suggest tp is fairly adaptable to the str...
by janKipo
Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:18 am
Forum: musi
Topic: Three haiku by Taneda Santoka
Replies: 7
Views: 51

Re: Three haiku by Taneda Santoka

Nice, but I admit to a preference for tp versions that keep at least the syllable pattern. There is a pile of these in the corpus, as well as a few scattered cases. Most of those in the corpus -- which is currently unsearchable except by looking at each item -- actually come from the musi section of...
by janKipo
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:45 am
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: Seasons
Replies: 13
Views: 138

Re: Seasons

Nice!
The address for the old list is in the pinned intro to tomo lipu on Facebook and probably in the Hub as well.
by janKipo
Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:34 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: Seasons
Replies: 13
Views: 138

Re: Seasons

‘tenpo seli’ for “summer” and ‘tenpo lete’ for “winter” are solidly established idioms. There are nothing so firm for ”spring” and “fall”, or even a small set of suggestions. Patterns like ‘tenpo pi kama lete’ fit with the fixed items, but there are also ‘tenpo pi kama lipu/kule/laso” for spring. An...

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