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by oligo
Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:08 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: A Few Observations on Minimalist Languages
Replies: 23
Views: 16231

Re: A Few Observations on Minimalist Languages

What is the purpose of Toki Pona? I used to believe that its purpose is to express emotions. I searched in the dictionary (http://tokipona.net/tp/ClassicWordList.aspx) for words describing emotions: mourning, painful, passive, patient, nausea, discomfort, unconvenient, trust, immoral, noble, pleasur...
by oligo
Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:53 am
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: A Few Observations on Minimalist Languages
Replies: 23
Views: 16231

Re: A Few Observations on Minimalist Languages

So you see that there is virtually nothing similar between tp and Ygyde, so no grounds for evaluative comparisons. Both languages rely heavily on compound words/phrazes and they struggle with ambiguity. It may seem that bigger morpheme set would be desirable, but the additional morphemes would not ...
by oligo
Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:51 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: A Few Observations on Minimalist Languages
Replies: 23
Views: 16231

Re: A Few Observations on Minimalist Languages

So what is spit in Ygyde? to spit = ibagupa = "verb top liquid anatomical part of a multicellular animal" i = verb ba = top gu = liquid pa = anatomical part of a multicellular animal You can quickly derive the noun spit/saliva from the verb: saliva = obagupa = "noun top liquid anatom...
by oligo
Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:31 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: A Few Observations on Minimalist Languages
Replies: 23
Views: 16231

Re: A Few Observations on Minimalist Languages

Ygyde seems to want to create new words for each situation, to make them as precise as possible with a minimum of context, and to assign each a restricted syntactic role. True. I will clue you in, however, that the quest for precision is always a doomed one... I agree. We will never reach precision...
by oligo
Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:12 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: A Few Observations on Minimalist Languages
Replies: 23
Views: 16231

Re: A Few Observations on Minimalist Languages

How transparent are these compounds?... I am a newbie trying to understand Toki Pona. (I am much more familiar with Ygyde and other oligosynthetic languages.) As far as I can tell, there is fundamental difference between Toki Pona and Ygyde. Every word of Toki Pona has about a dozen different meani...
by oligo
Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:35 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: best way to learn?
Replies: 12
Views: 7590

Re: best way to learn?

I could not find any dictionary on the Internet. Does anyone know URL (link) for complete Toki Pona dictionary? This is a merger of the wiki and the classic jan Sonja/jan Pije lists: http://tokipona.net/tp/ClassicWordList.aspx .... Thanks for the links. I am a newbie trying to understand the basics...
by oligo
Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:10 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: A Few Observations on Minimalist Languages
Replies: 23
Views: 16231

Re: A Few Observations on Minimalist Languages

For some reason, I don't think of Ygydygy orWahooey as minimalist, since they have indefinitely expandable vocabularies and are not obviously restricted in either phonology or grammar. a UI. Is a straightforward philosophical language, old school. Ygyde is newer in the sense of making its atomic po...
by oligo
Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:16 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: A Few Observations on Minimalist Languages
Replies: 23
Views: 16231

Re: A Few Observations on Minimalist Languages

Nearly all "minimalist" languages are oligosynthetic languages. The best known oligosynthetic languages are: Ygyde, Kali-sise, Sona, and aUI. Ygyde is the most mature of these languages. Its dictionary (posted at: http://www.ygyde.neostrada.pl/ygyded.htm) has over 4000 words. Its descripti...
by oligo
Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:51 am
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: Are there any words you've found yourself wanting?
Replies: 46
Views: 31346

Re: Are there any words you've found yourself wanting?

Is there any way to make verbs that are compound words? If not, how are new verbs made in Toki Pona?
by oligo
Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:35 am
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: sona
Replies: 14
Views: 7245

Re: sona

Sona, Ygyde, Kali-sise, and aUI are best known oligosynthetic languages. Ygyde is the most mature of these auxlangs. It has a dictionary of over 4000 words. The dictionary is posted here: http://www.ygyde.neostrada.pl/ygyded.htm