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by bronger
Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:57 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: stabilizing the tp phonetics for posterity
Replies: 7
Views: 2644

Re: stabilizing the tp phonetics for posterity

... toki pona has enough space for CV words with distinct vowels, but because it tried to echo words from natural languages, we get strings of words that aren't differentiated by the 2nd vowel. It would probably also help if there were dipthongs, which aren't all that hard to pronounce, but allow f...
by bronger
Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:46 am
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: mi wile ante e toki pona
Replies: 32
Views: 11999

Re: mi wile ante e toki pona

... But seriously, standard transcription of "л" into "l" makes some problems. I've heard a Russian pronouncing a tokiponian word "luka" just like лука , i.e. [~wuka]. Isn't it better to use original Russian рука ([ruka], "arm, hand")? Given that [l] and [r] ...
by bronger
Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:07 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: mi wile ante e toki pona
Replies: 32
Views: 11999

Re: mi wile ante e toki pona

jan Bronger o! but one should stick to the rule to pronounce "l" like in the English "long" even if it doesn't appear in your native phonem system. You are wrong. Tokiponian way is to not force users to learn new phonemes. ... I said "should" and meant it that way. If ...
by bronger
Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:35 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: mi wile ante e toki pona
Replies: 32
Views: 11999

Re: mi wile ante e toki pona

... But seriously, standard transcription of "л" into "l" makes some problems. I've heard a Russian pronouncing a tokiponian word "luka" just like лука , i.e. [~wuka]. Isn't it better to use original Russian рука ([ruka], "arm, hand")? Given that [l] and [r] ...
by bronger
Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:44 pm
Forum: jan nasa li wile ante e toki pona
Topic: mi wile ante e toki pona
Replies: 32
Views: 11999

Re: mi wile ante e toki pona

I just asked my Russian collegue to pronounce all this, and "л" really is *very* close to "l". then take your chance, ask him to read the following: ( ударение на 1й слог !!) ала але алэ and feel the difference. the 1st is ala , the 2nd is ale in my pronouciation, the 3rd is wha...
by bronger
Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:11 am
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: About the usage of "kin"
Replies: 30
Views: 6654

About the usage of "kin"

While editing the German translation of http://bknight0.myweb.uga.edu/toki/lesson/lesson0.html , I had serious trouble with understanding how to use "kin" properly. Is it a modifier or a conjunction? If it is a modifier, it should be after the word it's modifying. But this doesn't seem to ...
by bronger
Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:08 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: About the usage of "kin"
Replies: 30
Views: 6654

Re: About the usage of "kin"

Okay, I will correct the passage in the translation. I will post a couple of other problematic things in the next days. Unfortunately, this means that the Germans translation and the original will get out-of-sync more and more because I don't have the time to edit the original, too. It seems to be t...
by bronger
Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:21 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: About the usage of "kin"
Replies: 30
Views: 6654

Re: About the usage of "kin"

the post of Kirpichiov is of some historical interest. so, could somebody (e.g. jan Mato as the best IT specialist on forum) please tell me how to convert this text into cyrillic; it is so inconvenient to read I saved it as Latin-1 and re-loaded it as cp1251. The result is: A a а! ха! о! ой! ох! (э...
by bronger
Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:24 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: About the usage of "kin"
Replies: 30
Views: 6654

Re: About the usage of "kin"

Well, it certainly is not a modifier in the ordinary sense (A), since it cannot move around to other uses (I think). "Intensifier" is good, tough it names a class of one. I would probably put it in with 'li' and the like, for grammatical reasons, though not semantic. And even that is iffy...
by bronger
Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:08 pm
Forum: kama sona toki
Topic: About the usage of "kin"
Replies: 30
Views: 6654

Re: About the usage of "kin"


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