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by jan Seloki
Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:04 am
Forum: musi
Topic: A few haiku of Matsuo Basho in Toki Pona
Replies: 8
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Re: A few haiku of Matsuo Basho in Toki Pona

janKipo wrote: ‘lon wan taso’ “at only one” doesn’t seem to fit either. This one needs some work.
'lon wan taso' doesn't mean 'at only one'. 'wan taso' is well established as a way of saying 'only' or 'alone' so 'lon wan taso' means 'only exists'.
by jan Seloki
Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:42 am
Forum: musi
Topic: A few haiku of Matsuo Basho in Toki Pona
Replies: 8
Views: 18765

Re: A few haiku of Matsuo Basho in Toki Pona

tenpo pimeja lete la mi wan taso tawa nasin ni. No one travels Along this way but I, This autumn evening. ___________________ telo sewi la soweli li wile e len seli selo.* First winter rain- even the monkey seems to want a raincoat. *I'm not sure how it would sound to others, but it was supposed to...
by jan Seloki
Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:24 am
Forum: ijo ante | miscellaneous | diversaj
Topic: Left, right, numbers and "The Stuff of Thought"
Replies: 20
Views: 29278

Re: Left, right, numbers and "The Stuff of Thought"

In fact, “the sun rises” and “the sun sets” are. pretty universals, since they are apparent to sight in almost all environments. to us they are obvious, yes. from the point of view of a primitive culture, like I said, viewing the sun as something that was being reborn every day (beginning & end...
by jan Seloki
Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:03 am
Forum: ijo ante | miscellaneous | diversaj
Topic: Left, right, numbers and "The Stuff of Thought"
Replies: 20
Views: 29278

Re: Left, right, numbers and "The Stuff of Thought"

Bearing in mind that I'm new to this... Trying to think about this with as little cultural pollution as possible, it seems to me that East/West ought to explicitly reference 'suno'. 'open/pini suno' and 'sewi/anpa suno' equally make sense to me. Approaching north/south and left/right from the pseud...
by jan Seloki
Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:39 am
Forum: ijo ante | miscellaneous | diversaj
Topic: Left, right, numbers and "The Stuff of Thought"
Replies: 20
Views: 29278

Re: Left, right, numbers and "The Stuff of Thought"

As I said, I see the meaning of anpa/sewi, but I don't think most people would see using open/pini as a big deal. If you see tp as the kind of language a primitive culture would use (which I do. because in a lot of ways that's exactly what it resembles) they wouldn't necessarily have any concept of ...
by jan Seloki
Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:43 pm
Forum: ijo ante | miscellaneous | diversaj
Topic: Left, right, numbers and "The Stuff of Thought"
Replies: 20
Views: 29278

Re: Left, right, numbers and "The Stuff of Thought"

I am familiar with lete/seli. I just meant some people could be confused by seeing sewi/anpa for east/west as opposed to north/south (even if they ARE already familiar with lete/seli). Every discussion I've seen about left/right, east/west the common suggestion has been ma+ for east/west & poka+...
by jan Seloki
Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:41 am
Forum: ijo ante | miscellaneous | diversaj
Topic: Left, right, numbers and "The Stuff of Thought"
Replies: 20
Views: 29278

Re: Left, right, numbers and "The Stuff of Thought"

this thread is the first I've ever heard of anpa/sewi being used for east/west. I usually see kama/open & pini. I assume the former is referring to the sun rising/setting, but I'm not aware of that being any kind standard. I think that would confuse some people. kama/open & pini are more obv...
by jan Seloki
Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:53 pm
Forum: ijo ante | miscellaneous | diversaj
Topic: Left, right, numbers and "The Stuff of Thought"
Replies: 20
Views: 29278

Re: Left, right, numbers and "The Stuff of Thought"

Well, I think the tendency is to use ‘swi’ and ‘anpa’ rather that ‘open’ and ‘pini’ for East and West. They don’t require knowing about North and South or about Left and right. For Left and Right, I think we have settled on ‘pok open’ for “left” and ‘poka pini’ for “right” for essentially the reaso...
by jan Seloki
Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:29 pm
Forum: ijo ante | miscellaneous | diversaj
Topic: Left, right, numbers and "The Stuff of Thought"
Replies: 20
Views: 29278

Re: Left, right, numbers and "The Stuff of Thought"

poka open could be 'East' & poka pini could be 'west'. 'poka open' for the side the sun rises in (open) & 'poka pini' for the side the sun sets in (pini). You could use 'ma' for that instead of poka. To use that you need to know north & west though. Maybe poka open should be left, & ...